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Ringside: Round VII

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Dawn leaks issue has now been settled according to ISPR. Seems to be some backtracking from the army, especially given the original tweet. In the absence of the report being published, we'll be none the wiser.

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To me its look as Nawaz and family came out victorious. There was no "public" admission of guilt on their part and no direct public consequences. As it was ISPR how went public with this, they should also make the deal public. That whole we suddenly love democracy and are taking our tweet back, doesnt really play well for PA's image. From initials comments on social media, ISPR not coming out good so far. But lets see how this develops.

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To me its look as Nawaz and family came out victorious. There was no "public" admission of guilt on their part and no direct public consequences. As it was ISPR how went public with this, they should also make the deal public. That whole we suddenly love democracy and are taking our tweet back, doesnt really play well for PA's image. From initials comments on social media, ISPR not coming out good so far. But lets see how this develops.

Agree. I've folllow chap on twitter who claims to be an officer, he's been tweeting for a few years and on the whole, what he said over time has turned out to be true. He seems to suggest that the army had one of two options today. Back down as it did, or replace he government as they were not playing ball.

The least someone can do is publish the report.

As for social media and the army taking a kicking. The people really are fickle. The same would criticise the army for over stepping yet are desperate for NS to be replaced by the army.

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So essentially what happened was that a story was published (either leaked or fabricated) which basically said that Pakistan's civilian government blamed Pakistani Military Establishment of engaging in activities that would lead to Pakistan being internationally isolated. It was supposedly the contents of a meeting that took place in the PM.

It gave India the ammo to properly malign Pakistani Military and Narrative.

The Military declared it (after a Corps Commander Meeting) to be a breach of national security. That the Pakistani Narrative had been attacked by this.

The Pakistani Government also gave a similar view that a breach had occurred and it had hurt Pakistan's position.

So what is the punishment for those who had fabricated such a damaging lie?

Took the portfolio of one minister, and a departmental inquiry against a government employee.

That's it.

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Apparently, breach of national security, attacking the national narrative, fabrication of harmful stories etc are too serious crimes according to the Government and the miltary.

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Agree. I've folllow chap on twitter who claims to be an officer, he's been tweeting for a few years and on the whole, what he said over time has turned out to be true. He seems to suggest that the army had one of two options today. Back down as it did, or replace he government as they were not playing ball.

The least someone can do is publish the report.

As for social media and the army taking a kicking. The people really are fickle. The same would criticise the army for over stepping yet are desperate for NS to be replaced by the army.

ndad

I genuinely fail to see how the miltary did not see that their 'notification is rejected' tweet would not lead them to this situation.

Why in the world would they make such a confrontational tweet if they didn't have any plan for after it.

Could they not anticipate where it would lead them?

The military leadership should be smart enough to know what actions would do what. They called the Government out so publically and aggressively only to then retreat and essentially apologise for doing it.

To me it is baffling that our Generals can't seem to even anticipate Nawaz Shareef's moves. Isn't anticipating your adversary's moves a fundamental part of strategic planning?

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To me its look as Nawaz and family came out victorious. There was no "public" admission of guilt on their part and no direct public consequences. As it was ISPR how went public with this, they should also make the deal public. That whole we suddenly love democracy and are taking our tweet back, doesnt really play well for PA's image. From initials comments on social media, ISPR not coming out good so far. But lets see how this develops.

Nawaz et-al will get theirs through divine providence and that too at a time when he is sitting feeling snug that all is under control.

 

I do have a point of disagreement with ISPR.  ISPR/Military should NEVER comment on such issues through the public forum.  It was a stupid way of piling on pressure on the government.  In the end, they all (pols and khakis) came across as eating humble pie.

 

I know the beghairaty of our politicians is the reason the military went the route of tweeting its dissension, but even then it wasn't the best move.

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MPA Achakzai remanded in traffic policeman's death case
Syed Ali ShahUpdated about 2 hours ago

A judicial magistrate on Saturday remanded Balochistan legislator Majeed Khan Achakzai to police custody for five days.

A traffic sergeant, Haji Attaullah, was run over and killed near Quetta's GPO Chowk earlier this week when a vehicle allegedly belonging to the legislator ran him over.

The incident had come to light when footage of the legislator's vehicle ramming into the traffic officer began circulating on social media on Friday.

The legislator's vehicle had been speeding, police said.

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Police had arrested Achakzai from his residence in the Satellite Town area of Quetta Friday night following a campaign on social media mounting pressure on the government to arrest him.

Police produced Achakzai, who belongs to the Pakhtunkhwa Milli Awami Party (PkMAP), before a judicial magistrate on Saturday, who remanded the accused to police custody for five days.

Before he was remanded, Achakzai had confessed to his involvement in the accident and claimed to have agreed to compensate the family members of the slain traffic policeman, Deputy Inspector General of Police Razzaq Cheema said.

"The law will take its course if the legislator fails to convince the family," Cheema added.

Achakzai, an elected MPA for Balochistan from the PB-13 Killa Abdullah district, lashed out at "certain elements" who he claimed had declared him a criminal prior to a trial in court.

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Some poor servant will be put forward as the driver and this coward will get off. 

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