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Indian Air Force, News & Views - 2016


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I had a hearty laugh with you two talking about drdo. Made my day 😂😂😂

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They will install Kilingon cloacking devices sometime in early months of year 5989. DRDO is already working on it...
 

 

cool statement

 

kilingon cloaking :) 



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Well guys, Maha-MMRCA is in progress now.  It is no longer 126 planes, but 300.  Pakistan is not just isolated, but almost completely destroyed!

 

 

India’s biggest sky hunt begins

http://www.newindian...ns-1572138.html

 

By Pradip R Sagar  |   Published: 18th February 2017 10:34 PM  |  

Last Updated: 19th February 2017 11:38 AM

 
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NEW DELHI: India has launched the world’s biggest hunt for fighter jets in recent years. From single-engine to twin-engine, global players have been invited to build nearly 300 fighter jets here on the basis of foreign technology under Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s Make in India campaign.

 

Though all eyes are on Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar to announce its much-awaited strategic partnership model, the main focus will be towards developing an indigenous defence industry.

 

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In view of India’s biggest hunt for its fighter jets inventory, all defence majors showcased their best products in Aero India in Bengaluru from February 14 to 18. In the category of single engine jets, Sweden’s Saab and America’s Lockheed Martin have offered to shift their production line of fighter jets, the Gripen-E and F-16 (Block 70) respectively, to India, if chosen by the Indian government.

 

While aviation giant Boeing pitched its F-A/18 Hornet, Sweden’s Saab AB also offered the naval version of its Gripen fighter to the Indian Navy with an offer to build it in India. However, last week US President Donald Trump asked US-based Lockheed Martin—which makes F-16s—to take a “fresh look” at its proposal to set up a production line in India for combat jets.

 

The IAF announced its fresh fighter programme last year, months after it signed a contract to buy 36 Rafale warplanes from France for $8.85 billion. IAF placed a requirement of over 200 single-engine fighter jets to replace its aging fleet of Russian MiG-21s, which have been in service for nearly 50 years.

 

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The IAF is operating with a depleting fleet of 34 squadrons compared to the sanctioned strength of 42, and it is desperately eyeing to fill the shortage of its fighter jet strength in the multi-medium role category. In 2015, the government had scrapped the decade-old multi-role combat aircraft (MMRCA) contract and finalised 36 Rafale jets in place of 126 MMRCA to meet the urgent requirement of the IAF.

 

Last month the Navy invited global manufacturers to pitch for 57 planes for its aircraft carriers, a multi-billion dollar order that the government had hoped would go to the state-run producers of indigenously designed and developed Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) Tejas.

 

Earlier, Navy chief Admiral Sunil Lanba said the sea version (LCA Navy) was “not up to the mark” and it could not take off from an aircraft carrier once weapons were loaded. The Indian Navy has 45 MIG-29K jets for operations from INS Vikramaditya and from the under construction aircraft carrier .

 

The proposed procurement for multi-role carrier-borne fighter jets comes after 10 years when the Navy decided to buy MIG-29Ks from Russia for INS Vikramaditya. The aircraft carrier was also built by Russia. INS Vikrant is now under construction at Cochin and is likely to be inducted by 2019.

 
 

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Full tech transfer could derail Indo-Russian fifth-gen fighter program

By: Vivek Raghuvanshi, March 16, 2017 (Photo Credit: Dmitry Kostyukov/AFP via Getty Images)

 

NEW DELHI — The Indo-Russian fifth-generation fighter aircraft under joint development and production by the two countries has taken a hit, with Russia showing reluctance to fully transfer the aircraft technology, particularly stealth capabilities, despite repeated reminders, according to a top Indian Air Force official.

 

After the preliminary agreement on the particulars of the fifth-generation fighter aircraft (FGFA) program in 2010, and with both sides having paid $295 million each, the final agreement that enables India to release more than $4 billion, is pending.

 

The Air Force has worked out its requirements for the FGFA, but the crucial "work sharing and technology sharing draft has yet to be finalized," the IAF official said.

 

"The project is likely to get delayed further unless the issue of transfer of technology is finalized," offered Daljit Singh, a defense analyst and retired Indian Air Force air marshal. India should insist on technology transfer in specified fields, he added, as "full technology transfer may not be feasible." 

Another retiree from the Air Force agreed. "Full technology transfer is not possible since the aviation industrial base in India is not at par with that in Russia," said Vijainder K Thakur, a defense analyst and former squadron leader. 

 

An Indian Ministry of Defence official said the FGFA would be a joint project and that all technologies should be worked on together. The official would not provide further information.

 

Konstantin Makienko, the deputy director at the Moscow-based Centre for Analysis of Strategies and Technologies, said: "The joint project means that the both sides develop the technologies together and become equal owners of them. Therefore it is not about the technology transfer but a joint use of them."

 

The Air Force is insisting that an agreement for joint development of the FGFA be reached at the earliest, lest the production of the aircraft be delayed. Any delay "would have serious cascading effect on production of the aircraft for India," Singh said.

 

India has a requirement for 120-130 of such swing-role planes with stealth features for increased survivability, advanced avionics, smart weapons, top-end mission computers and 360-degree situational awareness, the Air Force official noted, adding that "the ability to supercruise or sustain supersonic speeds in combat configuration without kicking in fuel-guzzling afterburners is a key Indian requirement." 

For the most part, officials and analysts share a common view that a delay the final FGFA agreement is unlikely to shelve the entire program. 

 

"It's unlikely that an in-principle agreement between Russian and Indian heads of government would be shelved. If India is unhappy with the extent of technology transfer, it would likely resort to a straightforward, albeit limited, buy, as happened in the case of the Rafale deal [with France]. Doors would be kept open for enhancing the scope of the deal at a later date," Thakur said.

 

The Air Force official pointed out that India has worked out operational needs for the FGFA, which the service says could differ from those of the Russians in some aspects. Russia has already moved ahead with its own research and development of the FGFA.

 

Russia is doing very well with its version of the FGFA, which is called the T-50. The first flight of the T-50 took place in 2010​.

 

In addition, Russia said it will fly the T-50 with the Product 30 engine, giving it Mach 1.5 supercruise, by 2020.

 

The Indian Air Force wants technology transfer for the FGFA from Russia because it is facing difficulties in the Russian Sukhoi Su-30MKI aircraft due to no availability of spares and technology transfer. India has contracted 272 Su-30MKI aircraft and is license producing the same at state-owned Hindustan Aeronautics Limited facilities​.

 

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 the Air Force official noted, adding that "the ability to supercruise or sustain supersonic speeds in combat configuration without kicking in fuel-guzzling afterburners is a key Indian requirement." 

 

Yes, the IAF wants a super car so they can drive it in Eco mode. Cuz as everyone knows, once you have spent all your money on shinny toys, its expensive to actually drive it given the cost of the premium fuel. Why couldn't they just build them for unleaded gasoline!



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Procurement and project management practices in Indian defense industry would be good case study for business schools. Almost all of their defense projects are late, bloated, over priced and seriously lack quality.



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Import Content of various HAL products as released by the Parliamentary Standing Committee on Defence.

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In Short average 50+% of their value by price comes from Imports :).... Swadesi TekNalagggy at its best
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At Best any Aircraft's RCS is as Good as the RCS of any weapon carried Externally by it.


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i am kinda impress with only 25% of the content imported, that is a big achievement. 

 

remember they are also make engines with imported content 



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https://twitter.com/...9083648/photo/1

 

 

Import Content of various HAL products as released by the Parliamentary Standing Committee on Defence.

Their claims cannot be substantiated - going by their track record I will not be surprised if imported content is close to 99% for even low tech components.

Of course I know the paint is 100 percent Indian along with Russkie translation manuals.



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i am kinda impress with only 25% of the content imported, that is a big achievement. 

 

remember they are also make engines with imported content 

 

Here is the link from where these numbers for LCA come from.  This 25% is the LRUs (line replaceable units) by count.  By price it goes to 40%.

 

Indigenous content of Tejas 59.7% by value & 75.5% by numbers

http://indianexpress...umbers-4383036/

 

But engine is not counted in LRUs:

 

"Line replaceable units (LRU) and accessories include parts that although not directly forming part of the core engine are definitely necessary to sustain its operation, such as starters, fuel and hydraulic pumps, actuators, sensors, valves and tubing."

http://www.mtu.de/ma...nd-accessories/

 

I believe radar is also excluded.  So I wouldn't be surprised, if by value 80% of LCA is foreign.  Always expect Indians to lie.  They won't disappoint you then.

 

There is a good reason for the high failure rate of India "indigenous" programs.  They try to make components work together that were never meant to work together.


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Again, it is starting to get difficult deciding what is satire and what is realistic with these people

 

Project to develop unmanned version of Tejas in the works

 

http://economictimes...efault&from=mdr


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Again, it is starting to get difficult deciding what is satire and what is realistic with these people

 

Project to develop unmanned version of Tejas in the works

 

http://economictimes...efault&from=mdr

 

This one will have a flux-capacitor onboard that will allow it to go back in time and destroy the missile after the missile destroys Tejas, or is it Uejas?


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Again, it is starting to get difficult deciding what is satire and what is realistic with these people

 

Project to develop unmanned version of Tejas in the works

 

http://economictimes...efault&from=mdr

hehe pilots are too afraid to fly the flying coffin :)






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